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Master Ketsu · Mar 05, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

No, because it really isn't changing. OP builds are just being replaced by other OP builds that function in slightly different ways but for the most part are the exact same thing as the predecessor. IMO that's not a meta change.

Golden Rice · Mar 05, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

i hurd that if you have like a mid linerzzz lyke an ele wand gwen while the assassins pound on the monks, the gwen gets confoosed and blows up

then i come in and bspike jooo

daraaksii · Mar 05, 2009, 10:01 PM // 22:01

PS and Weapon of Warding will get pwned tomorrow (or next week). Yayyyyyy

Bacon Was A Monk · Mar 06, 2009, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by daraaksii

PS and Weapon of Warding will get pwned tomorrow (or next week). Yayyyyyy

PS and WoW sure got pwned...

Oh wait.

FoxBat · Mar 06, 2009, 01:22 AM // 01:22

WoW sure did.

I'm sure we will still see FC norgu, but eles are not going to bring that skill just to ward the ghostly anymore.

Also I don't get the PS hate. PS is weaker now than a strong warrior. Like RaO it is only used because any retard can half-succeed with it. Even in teaseway you are probably better off with warriors (assuming they have any skill.)

Bacon Was A Monk · Mar 06, 2009, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

WoW sure did.

I'm sure we will still see FC norgu, but eles are not going to bring that skill just to ward the ghostly anymore.

Also I don't get the PS hate. PS is weaker now than a strong warrior. Like RaO it is only used because any retard can half-succeed with it. Even in teaseway you are probably better off with warriors (assuming they have any skill.)

If you're talking about WoW'ing the ghostly, sure. Otherwise...

PS sins just take down targets too easy. Sure, warriors can still work, but why use a warrior when it's just that much easier to use a sin?

I don't predict the meta changing at all. Gwen and Norgu will continue to enjoy their stay.

Chaos Rofl Copter · Mar 06, 2009, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by frinoh

from teaseway to teaseway, iway, lichway and even some kind of balanced.

SO ARE YOU?

Easily rick rolled with NOW spike, BOSS spike, and FINE spike.

Reverend Dr · Mar 06, 2009, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Without flail, the PS sins are going to be neutered a bit. Losing that damage compression is going to hurt. Either they move to only spiking once every 20 with tiger's stance, or go brave with frenzy (already have dash), either way they are still going to have to spend 5 energy for the stance rather than it being free with adrenaline. Unfortunately most people won't realize this for a while, so we're going to be stuck with PS sins for another few weeks.

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 12, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

i pretty much noticed it about 1 hour after the update. all of a sudden we had balanced gvg teams tearing shit up... prolly while all the americans were asleep...

but seriously, i had the best day in HA for a long while for the whole next day. gg teaseway / ps sins

¿Evan¿ · Mar 13, 2009, 04:07 AM // 04:07

Problems in ha wont be fixed until maps and their mechanics are changed. Every single winning build needs to have a set of skills (Make Haste,Ward against foes,interrupts for ghost,death pact,warding) not so much interrupts, death pact, warding but you get my point. Until halls mechanics are changed or a drastic skill update is put in place the meta isn't going to change.

Krill · Mar 15, 2009, 01:56 AM // 01:56

I think you can safely say the teaseway meta is over...just doesn't work anymore.

Strongest gimmick atm is good old iway, ether prism is a broken skill. It's nice to see a lot more teams running balanced though even if it is crap balance, the modded cookie spike is strong too.

zling · Mar 15, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

[Ether Prism] isn't really broken, it's just a nice anti spike skill, which seems broken to you because the current meta is full of crappy spike gimmicks.
hopefuly pressure will find it's way back into the meta, than these sub par [Ether Prism] healers will be no more...

Krill · Mar 15, 2009, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Well compared to OoS it offers higher energy gain with a nice bonus effect instead of a potential health sac. Also, as a skill it can be activated while KD'd which is a biggie in tombs.

Dronte · Mar 15, 2009, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Its a nice skill but obviously not overpowered. You have to get the eles shoot it, THEN spike them. Easy by pressuring with war or whatever you have. Also, remember its their only nrg management skill so they probably have to use it after a while, even when they arent under any pressure.

Trylo · Mar 16, 2009, 12:09 AM // 00:09

if theres still teaseway... ill still be

havent played in 2 months though so if thats finally dwindling ill have to go check out HA again... didnt seem that way last night though

zling · Mar 16, 2009, 12:12 AM // 00:12

arienrhode, remember that Ele spells are a lot more expensive that Rit spells, so Eles having better energy management elite is fine...
[ether prism] doesn't make or break the team, even in HA, so it's not broken therefore doesn't need to be fixed...

Edwards · Mar 16, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

I would be extremely happy to see Ether Prism as the most pressing balance issue in the game.

Krill · Mar 16, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I know it's not going to be changed, I'm just citing it as another gimmick enabling skill, i.e. dear god why is iway meta again.

dr love · Mar 16, 2009, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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Originally Posted by arienrhode

dear god why is iway meta again.

cause its easy to find grps, 1/2 the party can be straight outta ascalon, it wins against teaseway usually and other things, the comments when you beat the other team are priceless and its damn fun!

Trinity Fire Angel · Mar 16, 2009, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Suggestion; remove zaishen and morale boost before UW. that should spice things up a little.... or if you get to the end of Tombs you automatically get sent into HoH... a little more fun for the PVE'ers (altho this would be full of [flail])